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Inuyasha: fandom pet peeves.


  • Kagome calling Sesshoumaru 'Maru-chan' without being instantly eviscerated;
  • Hanyou!Kagome (with one exception where she's InsaneHanyou!Kagome and therefore entertaining);
  • most Sesshoumaru/OC pairings *shudders*;
  • Summaries along the lines of 'read if u like fick that kego is a demon'. Really, what are people fangirls demons of the Pit thinking?


There's more, but I don't want to whine. Much.

Besides, I have to get back to work. Also, I'm ashamed for not commenting much on friends' LJs although I read them daily in my breaks and the addictions is worse than crack. Probably.

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reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 12:34 pm (UTC)
Kagome calling Sesshoumaru 'Maru-chan' without being instantly eviscerated;

Yes! That goes double if she ever calls him "Fluffy." He should kill her, then revive her so he can kill her again.

most Sesshoumaru/OC pairings *shudders*;
Yes! *shame* Although, I'm currently writing one. *double shame*

I hate any story that has marking on principle.

And grrr. Shippou is not Kagome's child. He's more like a little brother.

Yes, hanyou!Kagome and/or full youkai!Kagome need to die slow horrible deaths.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 12:59 pm (UTC)
Yes! That goes double if she ever calls him "Fluffy." He should kill her, then revive her so he can kill her again.

Hehe... I'm not sure whether Kagome calling him Fluffy to his face is in character (read: sometimes stupid) or not. She does tend to be dangerously air-headed occasionally... :/

Well, Sesshoumaru/OC doesn't have to be bad. It really depends on the writer. Most are simply blatant Mary-Sues, which is why I tend to steer clear of them. I'd be very interested to see what you come up with. :D

I hate any story that has marking on principle

Oh yes. Marking. Gratuitous biting which leads to scarring which is soooo not sexy.

And grrr. Shippou is not Kagome's child. He's more like a little brother.

Dunno... She's very young, but she doesn't treat him like she treats Souta -- she spoils him rotten instead. So to me, it does look more like a mother/child rather than a sibling relationship.

Still, in most cases Hanyou/Youkai!Kagome needs to die, you're right about that. :)

reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 02:05 pm (UTC)
I should probably rephrase the Kagome being Shippou's mother. It's more that I mate the way many authors make Shippou a clingy baby. Sure he does tend to cling.. but they focus on that and forget the kid is a bit of a wiseass. heh

Kagome can be dangerously airheaded. Poor girl.

It'll be a while before the Sesshoumaru/Oc story is up. I'm working very hard to keep the Mary Sue out of the OC. hee.

technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:17 pm (UTC)
Oh, I get it now. :) And you're right, he's avery percocious little youkai. And while he's clingy and occasionally whiny, he's also very protective of Kagome.

Take your time with the story -- Mary-Sueing an OC is a hard urge to combat. :P But I'm confident you do it very well. :D
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:18 pm (UTC)
*precocious*. I can't believe the typos I'm producing lately. Damn it. *is embarrassed*
reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 04:41 pm (UTC)
I actually like the OC a lot which has me a little worried. But I'm balancing her good points with flaws so hopefully it works out. It's most a Sesshoumaru story, but with a little OC romance thrown in for smut flavor. The romance is definietly the secondary plot within the story.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 04:59 pm (UTC)
I actually like the OC a lot which has me a little worried.

It might just mean she's likeable... And that's definitely a good thing. There's been enough Bitch!Youkai females in fanfic to last me a lifetime. Besides, if you have plot, everything's all right. :)

reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 05:10 pm (UTC)
I need to rename the poor girl since a recent filler episode used the name I had chosen.

She's pretty likable, but she's definitely a strong character personality wise. Mainly because I doubt Sesshoumaru would be attracted to a weak willed woman.

It has plot, although it's mostly an excuse to write about Sesshoumaru being aloof and spiffy. Which in my book is a good thing. ^_^
hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 12:42 pm (UTC)
Word wordity word. I despise "Fluffy", and I would dance in the pool of blood that was the only reminder of the author should Sesshou ever become aware she was making him answer to "Maru-chan".

Er. Ahem.

As for the Demonic!Kagome, I was contemplating writing a fic whereby Sesshou was in love with her but unable to bear the idea of her being human, gets his mitts on the Shikon and uses his wish to make her full youkai (because I can well imagine him wanting to bend the laws of physics and chemistry in order to get his way).

The story would revolve around Kagome and her friends and her family dealing with her newfound demon-ness, and also the fact that Sesshou's in love with her. Because that's, you know, big. And weird.

Would that automatically suck? I haven't read any of the Demonic!Kagome fics yet, so I don't know where they're weak or whatever. It didn't occur to me that it might be a stupid premise until I read your post, here.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 12:48 pm (UTC)
and I would dance in the pool of blood that was the only reminder of the author should Sesshou ever become aware she was making him answer to "Maru-chan".

Heh. Bloodthirsty R Us. *grin*

As to Demonic!Kagome, I didn't mena to generalize to that extent. I think just about *any* premise can turn into a brilliant story in the right hands (and yours definitely qualify, IMO), so don't let me keep you from churning out addictive fic stuff. Your idea is definitely OC as far as Sesshou's concerned and all of them dealing with the repercussions... I can imagine that getting very, very interesting.

Most Hanyou!Kagome stories however are the work of overly hormonal teenagers who think fangs and fluffy ears are sexy. Which they are, in a different context.
hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 01:04 pm (UTC)
[blushes]

Well, I am slightly protective of the ones I love/want to cover with brownie batter and tongue-bathe clean. One of the things I love adore lust like the most about Sesshou is his immense dignity. I despise anything that gratuitously makes him look stupid and/or foolish.

V. glad you see merit in my story idea! I've got about 8 million of 'em floating around in my weird head. But no, Cinnie, finish at least one of the sagas you're working on first before launching yet another.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 01:56 pm (UTC)
I don't know why I wrote 'OC' I meant IC. I'm an idiot.

And yes, Sesshou's so dignified I keep wondering why he isn't a cat demon. His whole attitude screams cat (well aside from the nonexistent (?) womanizing -- Miroku's much more like a tomcat that way).

And I know what you mean... I'm committed to finishing the Naruto story before embarking on the Inuyasha one. :)
hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:10 pm (UTC)
I knew what you meant, sweetie.

Yes, he's a bit closer to a cat than a dog, isn't he? I kinda imagine my own darling cat-baby, Edmund, when I think of Sesshou. Aloof, dignified, and then he rolls on his back to present his tummy for the scritching that I, a mere human, owe him. His permission of my mere existence is proof that he approves of me. And it's quite the honour that I'm allowed to take care of him.

I wanna read more of the Naruto story! And the porn! Where's the ninja porn?!
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:25 pm (UTC)
Heh, that sounds very much like Sesshou (and every cat I know, including my own). I knew he was a cat at heart.

"Does your human still sleep in your bed?"
"Yes. You wouldn't believe how obtuse they are sometimes."

The Naruto story is developing in tiny, tiny steps... I'm avoiding the sex scenes for now, since they're my favourite part. Will write them when there's enough plot. *sigh* Sadly enough, I have lots of ideas whenever I'm about to fall asleep, but work is so intense right now I don't have time to type them.
hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:53 pm (UTC)
Hehe. Edmund's little face is just so *exasperated* with me sometimes, like he can't *imagine* how I can possibly be so thick and stupid, and yet manage to remain alive.

Yes, I get the drifting-to-sleep ideas, too. Maybe you should get a little tape recorder and keep it beside your bed, to mumble your ideas into it. I do that, it helps prevent losing good stuff.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 04:57 pm (UTC)
*snicker* Damn, but cats are sooo entertaining. And the fact that they are entertaining and adorable while at the same time being self-absorbed little tyrants is very, very worrisome. :P

I might buy a little tape recorder when I have money... It's a good idea!

I just posted a car-crash type of bad ninja not-quite-smut fic. Therein I have Kakashi and Tomoe get it on in a perfectly absurd fashion (the story, if I can call it that, takes place before Straw Man Burning, however).
reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 02:00 pm (UTC)
This biggest weakness with Demonic!Kagome is the fact she becomes uber powerful. She keeps her miko powers, the very powers that purify youki, and generally fights well enough to make even Sesshoumaru look like a rank amatuer.

Also, generally she's perfectly fine with her newfound demonic nature. I dunno, if I suddenly sprouted claws and fangs I'd be rather put out to put it lightly.

Then she instantly wishes to adopt Shippou and make him her "pup". *twitches*

That's not to say demon!Kagome can't be done well, simply the writers who use that plot line tend to make an Mary Sue and name her Kagome.

I think your plot sounds kind of cool. Especially if Sesshoumaru gets to kick much ass. Because in the end, ass kicking is what's important. *grin* and smut
hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 03:19 pm (UTC)
I had planned on making her lose all her miko powers with the advent of demonic ones, actually... how can she purify youkai, and not incinerate herself for being youkai? Seems impossible to me.

And yeah, I'd have her be ten kinds of pissed off for suddenly becoming a demon. Though she'd be thrilled at her newly unbreakable nails (and promptly purchasing a fabulous manicure kit complete with little airbrush decals) she'd cut her tongue on the fangs every other word, constantly break/rip things with her newfound strength, and be kept awake at night with all the noises and smells that now assaulted her. SleepDeprived!Kagome instead of HappyToBeDemonic!Kagome. Hee.

Yeah, WTF is with the whole Shippo thing? Makes me wonder if the fandom is lousy with broody aching-for-motherhood womb-carriers (my name for women who think there's nothing more for them in life than pumping out the puppies).

Not that there's anything wrong with being a mother-- I rather like my own, after all-- but women have other parts to them, like brains n' stuff, that give them worth and value. There's more to us than just our ability to procreate.

But it's kinda creepy to read all these fics where a sixteen year old happily assumes the role of a mother to Shippo. And the whole pup thing... is that canon, to call demon-children (at least canine ones) "pup"? Because I'm getting mighty tired of it in fic.
reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 04:35 pm (UTC)
Yes. Miko powers and Youkai would simply cancel each other out if you wanted to be kind. Or she could spontaneously combust if you wanted to be evil. Not that I ever entertained that notion. *cough* <---was planning on writing a fan fic that was one big pun. =P

I think the Kagome-mama stuff is the author's way of showing she's responsible. Funny, I always considered teen motherhood a sign you weren't responsible. The standard romance fic sad to say is= Kagome meets guy, Kagome and guy have sex, marking is always involved..always, Kagome becomes pregnant, they live happily ever after. Worse 9 times out of ten Kagome decides school isn't important because she can learn every thing she needs to know from her "mate." *scowl* Stuff like that makes me want to strangle someone.

Moms are spiffy, mine especially so, I'm just in no hurry to be one.

I don't think the term "pup" is canon. The ironic thing about the demons in Inuyasha is they seldom act as the animal they are.

Muaha. I adore your ideas for the newly Demonic!Kagome. They sound great and very Kagome-like.
technoelfie
Jun. 28th, 2004 05:04 pm (UTC)
Yay! I'm all for ganging up on her and persuading her to just write the damn thing already. I'm selfish, but properly written Demonic!Kagome is starting to sound really attractive. Besides, I'd get to paint something new without feeling bad about it. :P

Worse 9 times out of ten Kagome decides school isn't important because she can learn every thing she needs to know from her "mate." *scowl* Stuff like that makes me want to strangle someone.

Word. Especially since one of Kagome's main attraction points for Sesshoumaru could be the fact that she is educated. This is actually one of the main reasons why I don't ship Inuyasha/Kagome. Because, when the hormone storm has abated and they stop thinking about sex 24/7, what are they going to talk about?
reiku
Jun. 28th, 2004 06:52 pm (UTC)
I've always felt that if Kagome/Inuyasha were for some reason seperated for 2-4 weeks they would be completely over each other.

I don't 'ship Inu/Kagome because they're boring and contrived. But yeah, once the quest is over and both get over their hormones there isn't much left.

hardlyfatal
Jun. 28th, 2004 07:48 pm (UTC)
[laughs and laughs] Why in the world would you feel bad about painting something new? Incidentally, I have no objections whatsoever if you were inclined to create a little something featuring Midoriko and Inutaisho from A Thousand Yeards... perhaps something naughty. Perhaps something featuring a bit of penis. Am rather fond of the penis.

Ahem. Er. Yes. Where was I? Right. Right.

Absolutely could not agree more on the boredom factor between Inu and Kags. Which is a little sad to me, because I'm desperately in love with the idea of reincarnated souls finding each other through time, blah blabbity blah. But their personalities just don't *work* together.

It was this conclusion that encouraged me to write Drops of Gold, because I *so* see Inu getting along with Sango. They've both got the practical warrior personalities. She's smart and competant, he's impatient with anything less than a mind-reader. Kagome *frustrates* him, and not in the good way.

I see Sesshou as rather more abstract, however. Educated, poetic, artistic. Able to appreciate those likewise parts of Kagome that, unfortunately for Inu, simply go right over his head.
technoelfie
Jun. 29th, 2004 03:22 am (UTC)
I'd feel bad about painting something new because of the thesis. But, once I'm done with that, I'll be all over my tablet. I promise.

Yay for Inu/Sango, but you knew that. I still want to see them have sex, btw.

Sesshou is definitely educated -- I don't know about poetic. Although I can see him composing little haikus about blood, and gore, and more blood and pretty poison. And I think his calligraphy is something people would kill for.

Inu however has been so busy just surviving that I don't think he'S received any education. That doesn't make him inferior, but I just don't think he and Kagome share much, intellectually.
hardlyfatal
Jul. 1st, 2004 02:10 pm (UTC)
Yay to being all over your tablet!

Hm, Inu/Sango sex... [ponders]

I think that making Sesshou only about the killing is to sell him short. I mean, you can only be out slaughtering the the unwashed masses so many hours of the day, right? Do you mean to tell me he does nothing else but sit at home, thinking up more effective ways to kill things?

Esp. in feudal Japan, where there was so much emphasis on the arts in the nobility. Even the youkai, I imagine, would not be exempt from this facet of society. No, he's gotta have some hobbies.

He's fiercely intelligent, and I doubt he'd be satisfied only with bloodletting. Even John Wayne Gacy liked to paint clowns, and I don't get the feeling that Sesshou's killing is a psychosis or fixation. He doesn't feel like an unhinged serial killer to me, or a monster. Killing to him is a tool, a means to an end, not the end itself.

Therefore and to wit, I can see him getting into poetry-- the elegance of the words, making them fit, making them conform to tell the tell he desires... I can see him liking that.

Ditto for calligraphy, painting, music... I see him on a quest for perfection, I see frustration in not achieving it every single time.

I also see me thinking far, far too much about this. God, I hate when I get obsessed with a character. It gets all weird n' stuff.
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